Discussion:
Free Turks from Jewnerals and Jeuros of Kemal
(trop ancien pour répondre)
Ali Mustafa Kamran
2004-10-13 17:11:48 UTC
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The rulers of Turkey today are all secret Jews.
This is why they supress Islam. They want to bring
Protestantism (which is really Jewish) into Turkey
because they think it makes us more commercial.
Turkey made possible the advance of Islam so Turkey
must be restored to Islam for Islam to be great again.
Kemal's Generals were all Jews and they are still
Jews.

















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Kemal was Yahudi Selanik Sefarad and all Turk generals today are
Yahudi. Iran Pahlevis were also Selanik Sefarad. Columbus (with Luis de Torres and Gabriel Sanches)
was also and take Yahudi from al-Andalus to Caribian then Jew York.
Sefarad double-cross Moor Muslumans but Spania catch them and
do Inquisitions. Else Moor Fasli be first in America,
not Yahudi. Free Turks from Kemal Selanik Sefarad Jewnerals!
Islamic Relief Fund POB 6098 Californai 91510



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Basil
2004-10-16 20:24:28 UTC
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Mustafa Kemal Ataturk was a freemason, but not a Jew and some of the
young Turks were Jews but the majority were born Muslim. Get over
it... I think Turkey is better off as a secular state where people can
be free to believe in religion or not believe in religion rather than
what is found in Arabic countries where religion pervades everything
and you have no choice in the matter... And calling Protestants a
Jewish religion is an example of your ignorance when there are so many
different kinds of Protestants like Episopalian, Anglican, and
Baptist, so it is not surprise you blame Jews for no theocratic state
in Turkiye...
mark rivers
2004-10-17 17:19:14 UTC
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This shit-head who posts anti-Turkish hate propaganda under the name
"Ali Mustafa Kamran (***@yahoo.com)" shits in the same pot as
another shit-head, "Grand Sen~or (***@yahoo.com)" and eats the
same Islamist/Jihadist/Ottomanist shit out of the same shit-pot. The
two shit-heads are identical clones generated by
Islamist/Jiahdist/Ottomanist anti-Turkish hate machine which is a
clone of Wahabist/Islamist/Judaist anti-World hate machine.

The less of them, the better off Turkey will be and the better the
World will be.
Post by Basil
Mustafa Kemal Ataturk was a freemason, but not a Jew and some of the
young Turks were Jews but the majority were born Muslim. Get over
it... I think Turkey is better off as a secular state where people can
be free to believe in religion or not believe in religion rather than
what is found in Arabic countries where religion pervades everything
and you have no choice in the matter... And calling Protestants a
Jewish religion is an example of your ignorance when there are so many
different kinds of Protestants like Episopalian, Anglican, and
Baptist, so it is not surprise you blame Jews for no theocratic state
in Turkiye...
Jason K. Lambrou
2004-10-17 18:09:11 UTC
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Post by mark rivers
This shit-head who posts anti-Turkish hate propaganda under the name
same Islamist/Jihadist/Ottomanist shit out of the same shit-pot. The
two shit-heads are identical clones generated by
Islamist/Jiahdist/Ottomanist anti-Turkish hate machine which is a
clone of Wahabist/Islamist/Judaist anti-World hate machine.
The less of them, the better off Turkey will be and the better the
World will be.
Post by Basil
Mustafa Kemal Ataturk was a freemason, but not a Jew and some of the
young Turks were Jews but the majority were born Muslim. Get over
it... I think Turkey is better off as a secular state where people can
be free to believe in religion or not believe in religion rather than
what is found in Arabic countries where religion pervades everything
and you have no choice in the matter... And calling Protestants a
Jewish religion is an example of your ignorance when there are so many
different kinds of Protestants like Episopalian, Anglican, and
Baptist, so it is not surprise you blame Jews for no theocratic state
in Turkiye...
You swine. You filthy little maggot. What is that tripe you call an
opinion? What is that scrofulous little tumor you call a brain? Don't
you know that you are pathetic? You worthless bag of filth, you wad of
pus. You're a canker, a sore that won't go away. I would rather kiss a
goat than be seen with you.
mark rivers
2004-10-18 03:16:16 UTC
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"Jason K. Lambrou" <***@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message news:<bzycd.81435$***@twister.nyc.rr.com>...


Bloody fucken Greek homos support anybody who murders innocent Turks
even though thet do not have good enough fucken ass to it themselves.

http://www.mfa.gov.tr/grupe/eh/eh05/03.htm



Foreign Ministry Publications

Greece and PKK Terrorism (II)

Ocalan Leaves for Athens on October 1998

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Following Turkey's resolute policies against Syria, which had served
as an operational base for PKK terrorists and had sheltered the head
of the PKK for over 14 years, Abdullah Öcalan fled Syria and went to
Russia. The route that Öcalan took from Damascus to Moscow was
uncovered some time later. It was established that Öcalan had first
gone to Athens with the intention of staying in Greece and that this
had been arranged by a deputy of the ruling Pan-Hellenic Socialist
Party (PASOK) of Prime Minister Simitis.

In a book entitled "Travel to Kurdistan," Panos Pikramenos, a
journalist of the Athens-based Strategy magazine, reported that Öcalan
left Syria for Greece on a regular flight of the Syrian Airlines on 9
October 1998. Pikramenos noted that Öcalan and his secretary,
code-named Rozerin Lazer, landed at the Ellenikon airport in Athens
where they stayed for over 7 hours:

"The head of the PKK left Syria on 9 October 1998. Abdullah Öcalan was
at the Ellenikon airport in Athens on 9 October and was planning to
stay in Greece for 5 to 10 days, though this has not been confirmed by
the Greek government. …. Abdullah Öcalan and his secretary Roserin
Lazer arrived in Greece on a regular flight of the Syrian Airlines and
waited for over 7 hours in a room at the airport terminal. Prior to
Öcalan's arrival in Greece, a high-profile PASOK deputy, coming from a
well-known Greek family, arranged Öcalan's flight to Greece with his
secretary. This is how the police at the passport checkpoint found
Öcalan and his secretary standing before them in the morning of 9
October. Nobody greeted them at the airport. However, the Minister of
Public Order had been informed of Öcalan's imminent arrival. The PASOK
deputy that assumed the role of mediator between Öcalan and the Greek
government tried hard to contact the Premier and the other ministers
all of whom were attending a meeting of the "Council for Defence and
Foreign Affairs" at the office of the Prime Minister. The PASOK deputy
interrupted the meeting and informed the Prime Minister of the issue.
The Premier immediately consulted Minister of Public Order Romeos,
Foreign Minister Pangalos and Defence Minister Tsohatzopoulos. The
answer was negative."

Leftist daily Athinaiki, too, reported on 19 November 1998 that,
despite the denial of the Greek authorities, there was concrete
evidence showing that Öcalan and his secretary, code-named Lazer, had
come from Syria to Greece on 9 October 1998. The daily disclosed that:

"Abdullah Öcalan and his secretary came to Greece on 9 October on a
scheduled flight of the Syrian Airlines. Roserin Lazer, his secretary,
was accompanying him. Both of them were travelling with false
documents. Their arrival in Athens was reported to the PKK
representatives in Greece who subsequently informed those PASOK
deputies having friendly relations with the PKK."

Athinaiki stated that former PASOK deputy Mihail Haralambidis had also
confirmed Öcalan's arrival at the Ellenikon Airport on 9 October 1998.
That
Öcalan landed in Greece and waited in the transit hall until his
departure for Russia was confirmed by the daily Eksusia as well.

These reports were at that time categorically denied by Greek
officials. The Greek government described the reports that claimed
Öcalan had stopped off at Athens airport on 9 October 1998 as "a good
piece of fiction." Replying to reporters' questions, government
spokesman Reppas said "the Greek government insists that the Kurdish
leader had not even passed through Athens airport in transit, nor had
he requested to either stop over or stay in Greece."

The Greek Prime Minister, a number of his ministers and other
government officials were aware that Öcalan was in Athens on 9 October
1998. The obligation of the Greek government under international law
was not to deny or to cover up his existence and to help him escape,
but cooperate to bring him to justice. Instead, the Greek government
chose to deliberately lie through its official spokesman.
Jason K. Lambrou
2004-10-18 12:47:33 UTC
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mark rivers wrote:

You are weary, stale, flat and unprofitable. You're grimy, squalid,
nasty and profane. I have excreted better things than you. You are foul
and disgusting. You're a fool, an ignoramus. Monkeys look down on you.
Post by mark rivers
Bloody fucken Greek homos support anybody who murders innocent Turks
even though thet do not have good enough fucken ass to it themselves.
http://www.mfa.gov.tr/grupe/eh/eh05/03.htm
Foreign Ministry Publications
Greece and PKK Terrorism (II)
Ocalan Leaves for Athens on October 1998
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Following Turkey's resolute policies against Syria, which had served
as an operational base for PKK terrorists and had sheltered the head
of the PKK for over 14 years, Abdullah Öcalan fled Syria and went to
Russia. The route that Öcalan took from Damascus to Moscow was
uncovered some time later. It was established that Öcalan had first
gone to Athens with the intention of staying in Greece and that this
had been arranged by a deputy of the ruling Pan-Hellenic Socialist
Party (PASOK) of Prime Minister Simitis.
In a book entitled "Travel to Kurdistan," Panos Pikramenos, a
journalist of the Athens-based Strategy magazine, reported that Öcalan
left Syria for Greece on a regular flight of the Syrian Airlines on 9
October 1998. Pikramenos noted that Öcalan and his secretary,
code-named Rozerin Lazer, landed at the Ellenikon airport in Athens
"The head of the PKK left Syria on 9 October 1998. Abdullah Öcalan was
at the Ellenikon airport in Athens on 9 October and was planning to
stay in Greece for 5 to 10 days, though this has not been confirmed by
the Greek government. …. Abdullah Öcalan and his secretary Roserin
Lazer arrived in Greece on a regular flight of the Syrian Airlines and
waited for over 7 hours in a room at the airport terminal. Prior to
Öcalan's arrival in Greece, a high-profile PASOK deputy, coming from a
well-known Greek family, arranged Öcalan's flight to Greece with his
secretary. This is how the police at the passport checkpoint found
Öcalan and his secretary standing before them in the morning of 9
October. Nobody greeted them at the airport. However, the Minister of
Public Order had been informed of Öcalan's imminent arrival. The PASOK
deputy that assumed the role of mediator between Öcalan and the Greek
government tried hard to contact the Premier and the other ministers
all of whom were attending a meeting of the "Council for Defence and
Foreign Affairs" at the office of the Prime Minister. The PASOK deputy
interrupted the meeting and informed the Prime Minister of the issue.
The Premier immediately consulted Minister of Public Order Romeos,
Foreign Minister Pangalos and Defence Minister Tsohatzopoulos. The
answer was negative."
Leftist daily Athinaiki, too, reported on 19 November 1998 that,
despite the denial of the Greek authorities, there was concrete
evidence showing that Öcalan and his secretary, code-named Lazer, had
"Abdullah Öcalan and his secretary came to Greece on 9 October on a
scheduled flight of the Syrian Airlines. Roserin Lazer, his secretary,
was accompanying him. Both of them were travelling with false
documents. Their arrival in Athens was reported to the PKK
representatives in Greece who subsequently informed those PASOK
deputies having friendly relations with the PKK."
Athinaiki stated that former PASOK deputy Mihail Haralambidis had also
confirmed Öcalan's arrival at the Ellenikon Airport on 9 October 1998.
That
Öcalan landed in Greece and waited in the transit hall until his
departure for Russia was confirmed by the daily Eksusia as well.
These reports were at that time categorically denied by Greek
officials. The Greek government described the reports that claimed
Öcalan had stopped off at Athens airport on 9 October 1998 as "a good
piece of fiction." Replying to reporters' questions, government
spokesman Reppas said "the Greek government insists that the Kurdish
leader had not even passed through Athens airport in transit, nor had
he requested to either stop over or stay in Greece."
The Greek Prime Minister, a number of his ministers and other
government officials were aware that Öcalan was in Athens on 9 October
1998. The obligation of the Greek government under international law
was not to deny or to cover up his existence and to help him escape,
but cooperate to bring him to justice. Instead, the Greek government
chose to deliberately lie through its official spokesman.
mark rivers
2004-10-18 18:04:59 UTC
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"Jason K. Lambrou" <***@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message news:<FXOcd.82081$***@twister.nyc.rr.com>...




"It should also be pointed out that when the Greek army invaded Turkey
between 1919 and 1922, it carried out a conscious policy of ethnic
cleansing with the purpose of killing and/or driving out all
inhabitants of western Turkey who did not share Greek nationality and
religion, causing those Muslims and Jews who survived to flee to the
areas under Turkish nationalist control. This policy was eloquently
reported in a detailed report presented by an International Commission
of Investigation chaired by American Admiral and High Commissioner
Mark Bristol, and including representatives of Italy, France and Great
Britain, as well as Greek and Turkish observers, by a Red Cross report
written by the Red Cross representative in Turkey, Maurice Gehry, and
by historian Arnold Toybee in a series of articles published at the
time in the Manchester Guardian and later summarized in his book, 'The
Western Question in Greece and Turkey.' As a result, Great Britain cut
off all military and financial assistance to the Greek invasion, a
major reason for its ultimate defeat by the armies of Mustafa Kemal
Ataturk."

-- Professor Stanford
Shaw




Following their military defeat in 1922, after having attacked,
tortured, raped and massacred the Turks, Jews and others in Western
Anatolia and destroyed their country after Ottoman Empire collapsed
after WWI, the Greeks executed six Cabinet ministers of their own whom
they thought responsible for the humiliating failure.

One was brought on a stretcher to the execution ground, being too sick
to walk. Another died of a heart attack in the van taking him from his
prison cell. The sick and the dead were propped up alongside the
others and shot.

Being dead of heart attack was not dead enough for the Greeks; they
still wanted to kill him more(!) by shooting his already dead body.
Killing a sick man, too sick to walk, and shooting a dead body is
another dimension of Greek crulety, blood-thirstiness and savagery
against fellow human beings.

But the ultimate Greek crulety, blood-thirstiness and savagery against
fellow human beings, which is very rarely seen elsewhere, is this: The
six Greek goverment ministers (one was too sick to walk, another was
alread dead of a heart attack) were executed for failing to massacre
and/or drive out all inhabitants of western Turkey, Moslems, Jews and
others, who did not share Greek nationality and religion.

It is exactly like an organized crime syndicate punishing by executing
its member thugs and murderers failing to committ crimes. Mafia does
this all the time.




http://www.greekmurderers.net/documents.html


DOCUMENTED MASSACRES BY GREEK GOVERMENT IN TURKEY DURING 1919-1922


In 1919, Greeks entered Anatolia with the support of Entente Powers in
order to kill Turkish people living in Anatolia. To reach their goals,
they didn't hesitate to kill unarmed civilian people, even children.
We are publishing the documents which first appeared in Historical
Documents Magazine. The magazine compiled the documents from General
Directorate of Government Archives. The magazine includes particularly
the Greek atrocities, massacres, rapes, arson targeting unarmed
Turkish
people and their sacred values between 1919-1922, a period in which
the
Greek occupation of Western Anatolia took place.

Now we have a question: Do Greeks have any right to bring out the
"Asia
Minor" genocide while they have committed all these massacres, rapes,
murders, and plunders against Turkish and Muslim people?


Below, you can see the original documents which prove all of the
massacres,
robberies, rapes of Greeks.

Date of The Document Summary:

May 20, 1919 The report of Izmir Gendarmerie Division to Gendarmerie
General Headquarters about the invasion, the murders, rapes, insults
of
Greeks against Turkish people during the occupation of Izmir

May 20, 1919 The report of the Denizli Gendarmerie Division about
murders
and invasion of Greeks

July 3, 1919 The report of Aydin Central Command to 57th Division
Command
informing about the organization, formation and murders of "Aydin
Massacre"

July 7, 1919 The report of 57th Division Command to 2nd Army
Inspectors
about the cruelly murdered Muslim people who happened to escape from
the
"Burning of Aydin"

July 7, 1919 The report of 57th Division Command to 2nd Army
Inspectors
about burning of Aydin, killing of civilian people and the head
officer,
the attorney general and the judge by Greeks

August 1, 1919 The notes about the massacre of people in Cuma quarter
during the Battle of Aydin

August 30, 1919 The article by the office of Aydin Governor to
Lieutenant
Colonel Kadri Bey about murders, insults and robberies of Greeks
around Izmir

September 13, 1919 The petition of her father and doctor report about
the
rape of an 8-year-old girl by Greek soldiers

September 13, 1919 The statement of a girl raped by Greek soldiers

September 13, 1919 The statement of a brother whose sister was raped
by
Greek soldiers

October 31, 1919 The writing of Heyeti Temsiliye stating that more
than five
hundred Muslim people in Odemis, Bergama, Tire and Salihli districts
have
been arrested and tortured with pretext of aiding national forces.

November 7, 1919 The report of Military Police Organization concerning
crimes
commited by Greeks such as murders, robberies, fire starting, insults
against
mosques and even Koran in Yenisehir and surrounding villages.

January 30, 1921 The report prepared by the Military Police Bozüyük
Directorate
and presented to the Western Front Headquarters about the atrocities
of Greeks
such as theft, plunder, and rape committed against people of Bozüyük
and Sögüt.

April 8, 1921 The help request of the Western Front Headquarters from
General
Staff concerning the fires of Bilecik, Sögüt, Bozüyük, the massacre of
the
Turkish people, including the müfti of Bilecik, and the suffering of
the survivors.

April 10, 1921 The testimony of the captured Greek Lieutenant Teodoros
Pedlis
about the fire of Bozüyük.

April 11, 1921 The orders of the Western Front Headquarters about the
participation
of the French writer Madam Glois to the committee formed to
investigate the Greek
atrocities and destruction in the Western Front region.

October 4, 1921 The letter from Abdülkadir Bey, who medically treated
Sidika,
burnt by Greek soldiers in Horti Village, to Halide Edip (Adivar)
Hanim concerning
the event.

November 15, 1922 The report by the 2nd Army Headquarters presented
to the
Western Front Headquarters about the imprisonment of Turkish
villagers, about
their mistreatment as POWs and about beheading of some villagers and
exhibiting
their heads to others.

December 1, 1922 The telegraph from 1st Army Headquarters informing
the Western
Front Headquarters that in Böceklik, Greek soldiers have burnt 380 of
the 1500
people near the station and 30 people in prison.

March 3, 1922 The list prepared by Saruhan Head Office showing the
names of
Greek soldiers and officers who participated in the atrocities and
massacres in
Manisa province.

November 22, 1923 The list of the names, prepared by Saruhan Head
Office and
presented to the Court-martial Presidency, of the Greek soldiers and
officers
who participated in the atrocities and massacres in Saruhan district
during the
invasion.



References:

Kadir MISIRLIOGLU; Yunan Mezalimi, 1972, Istanbul

Halide Edip, Yakup Kadri, Falih Rifki; Izmir'den Bursa'ya, 1338
(1922), Deraadet (Istanbul)

Trakya Cemiyetleri Nesriyatindan, Sarki Trakya'da Yunan Zulümleri,
1338 (1922)

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